Design Before Tools: A Conversation with Jim Brenner

The founder who feels behind isn’t failing. They may simply be running a life and business nobody deliberately designed.

CJ Powers interviewing Jim Brenner in a podcast studio

Ask a founder how things are going, and you’ll often hear two seemingly contradictory answers: the business is doing well, but they feel behind.

They may feel behind on work, on the latest AI tools, on their responsibilities at home—or on all three at once. From the outside, they appear successful. Inside, their days feel increasingly fragmented.

Jim Brenner and I encounter this problem from different directions.

Jim advises founders and business owners at significant turning points—after a sale, an investment, a major deal, or a prolonged period of overload. His work helps them redesign how they live and lead.

My work focuses on helping people use AI to simplify repeatable tasks while protecting the judgment, creativity, relationships, and responsibilities that still need a human being.

I invited Jim to discuss the pressure successful founders experience, why the usual solutions often fail, and how people can deliberately design a better way to work. His approach intersects with mine, so I asked him the key questions—and added my perspective after each answer.

I see Jim’s approach as step one and mine as step two in the same solution: design the life and work you want, then use AI thoughtfully to help protect it.

What changed the way you think about pressure?

CJ: Jim, what changed the way you think about how people cope with pressure and change?

Jim: Honestly, I used to think pressure was a discipline problem. When things became difficult, you worked harder.

That’s what I did for years while building a business—head in a laptop, working far too many late nights after everyone else had gone to sleep.

It worked professionally, but I was often home without really being there. Nothing in my week was designed to change that.

Eventually, I decided what would no longer be allowed to move: time to think and create, my health, time with my children, and my closest relationships. Then I designed my work around those priorities instead of trying to fit them into whatever time remained.

I now see the same pattern in some of the best founders I work with. The ones who have adopted a more deliberate approach aren’t necessarily the people who work the hardest. They’re lighter, calmer, and happier—and that difference is by design.

They still face problems, stress, and the ordinary messiness of life. But they’ve established non-negotiable boundaries around their work, health, family, and the things that make them feel alive.

I wish I had done it much earlier.

CJ’s perspective

My career has taken me through government, technology, communications, healthcare, nonprofit work, and several other fields. In some environments, stress is intentionally manufactured to drive performance. In others, it grows out of inefficient systems that were never updated.

Most often, however, stress compounds because the original source of pressure is never properly removed. New expectations, tools, and responsibilities are simply placed on top of it.

I experienced that firsthand while working in the technology sector. On one particularly difficult day, I faced a real deadline, a client who had manufactured a crisis to test me, and a prospective client who wanted a customized presentation before taking it to the company’s board that evening.

I became so overwhelmed that I lay down on the floor to ground myself and determine my next steps.

Then I met the deadline. I explained to the client why an immediate response to the manufactured crisis would be the wrong choice. And instead of giving the same presentation twice, I asked to speak directly to the prospective client’s board.

The immediate problems were resolved. But the experience taught me that enduring pressure isn’t the same as designing a system that reduces it.

What does this problem look like on an ordinary Tuesday afternoon?

CJ: What does this problem look and feel like for the person living it—not as a textbook definition, but on an ordinary Tuesday afternoon?

Jim: It’s three o’clock on a Tuesday afternoon.

You’ve been in back-to-back calls since eight. Most of those calls could have been emails or handled by a team that understands what good work looks like.

You answer messages while someone is speaking to you and tell yourself you’ll be present later. But later never arrives.

By nine, you’re home but still at your desk. Your back aches, you feel slightly numb, and a hundred things are waiting for your input. You realize it has been a month since you did anything meaningful with your children. Time with your spouse has shrunk to watching television together on the sofa.

You already know you’ll wake up at three in the morning with a flood of thoughts that won’t turn off.

Nothing is obviously wrong, and that’s what makes the problem difficult to name. From the outside, it looks like success: the business, status, house, car, and possessions.

From the inside, it feels fragmented. You’re running on fumes with a quiet suspicion that you should be doing better than this.

CJ’s perspective

The day after my experience on the office floor, I felt both victorious and foolish. I hadn’t failed, but my mind immediately began searching for a way to ensure that I would never feel so overwhelmed again.

The ideal solution didn’t exist. Circumstantial crises, unexpected attacks, and other people’s poor decisions are part of life. We cannot predict every difficult situation.

What we can do is prepare ourselves to think on our feet and focus on the best available solution instead of becoming consumed by the storm.

The goal isn’t to eliminate uncertainty. It’s to build enough capacity into our lives and work that uncertainty doesn’t immediately overwhelm us.

What do people assume is wrong—and what do they try first?

CJ: What does everyone assume is going wrong, what do they try first, and why doesn’t it work?

Jim: People often assume it’s a mindset or discipline problem, so they try the obvious fixes: earlier mornings, another productivity app, a better to-do list, more delegation, and now AI.

Those fixes rarely last because each one is added to a setup nobody intentionally designed.

Delegation without a destination simply creates space that gets refilled with more work. The founder isn’t short of effort or tools. The real problem is that they never decided what the week was for.

As a result, everything urgent fills the available space—including the time they just worked so hard to recover.

CJ’s perspective

AI can fall into exactly this trap.

Businesses see a new technology and immediately ask where they can install it. But adding AI to a poorly designed process can make it faster without improving it. In some cases, it simply helps the confusion spread more efficiently.

Before we automate anything, we need to understand the pressure we’re trying to relieve and what we intend to do with the capacity we create.

We also need to separate problem-solving from assigning blame. When leaders focus first on who was at fault, everyone’s attention becomes divided between protecting themselves and finding a solution.

A better starting point is to treat the problem as a new design challenge: What happened? What pressure did it reveal? What could we change so that the same pressure does not return every week?

What does it cost if nothing changes?

CJ: If nothing changes for another year, what does it cost—in the business, at home, and in how founders feel about themselves?

Jim: In the business, decisions are made while tired and in reaction to the latest problem. Everything continues to route through the founder.

At home, they’re physically present but mentally somewhere else. Eventually, the people they love stop expecting more from them.

The way they see themselves also begins to change because the business becomes the structure they live inside.

Then the company sells—or finally learns to operate without them—and suddenly there’s space with no shape to it. They’re no longer reacting to everything, so they finally have time to live, but many don’t know how.

They drift.

That can eventually appear as money problems, health scares, strained relationships, and a family that feels the distance. I watched that happen to my own father, and it didn’t go well.

CJ’s perspective

There’s another cost: the gradual loss of confidence in our own judgment.

When we don’t have a healthy way to learn from mistakes, we begin treating every mistake as evidence that something is wrong with us. We build a protective façade that hides our authenticity and suppresses the very qualities that make our work valuable.

During one long technology project, the stakes felt enormous. When I made a mistake, people lost their jobs. When I succeeded, the company expanded and hired more people.

The more I obsessed over avoiding mistakes, the worse I performed. When I returned my attention to doing the work in my unique way, the results improved.

The lesson wasn’t to ignore consequences. It was to stop allowing fear of imperfection to replace my judgment.

Is this really a time-management problem?

CJ: Finish this sentence: “This isn’t a ___ problem; it’s a ___ problem.” Then tell me why.

Jim: This isn’t a sacrifice problem. It’s a design problem.

Founders are taught that long hours, missed moments, and constant pressure are simply the price of success. I don’t believe they are. They’re what an undesigned role produces.

Stress may get our attention, but the answer isn’t merely to cope with it more effectively. The answer is to build a structure that stops the same pressure from arriving every week.

That creates room for family, health, and the thinking that made the founder good at the work in the first place.

CJ’s perspective

I would add that this isn’t merely a business problem. It’s part of the human condition.

Mistakes help us learn. Fear helps us survive. Stress captures our attention because something may need to change.

The problem begins when we treat stress as a permanent operating system instead of a signal.

Stress should prompt us to examine our processes, eliminate unnecessary friction, and identify repeatable work that can be simplified or automated. Used thoughtfully, AI can help manage those recurring demands and increase both our capabilities and our capacity.

But technology should support the life and work we have deliberately designed. It should not decide what that life and work become.

What does a better approach look like?

CJ: What does the better approach look like in practice? What should someone do first—and what should they stop doing?

Jim: Start by writing down the week you actually want. Then compare it with the week you currently have.

Protect two things before anything else is scheduled:

  1. Time with family and friends that will not move.
  2. Time to think and create.

Then design the business around those commitments instead of squeezing them into whatever time remains.

Stop adding tools or delegating work until you know what the recovered time is for.

One founder I work with did exactly that. He now has protected creative time and non-negotiable time with his wife and family. He’s more present at home and more focused and strategic at work.

He feels happier, lighter, and more alive.

CJ’s perspective

Once you know what you’re protecting, you can begin redesigning the work that threatens it.

Many businesses still rely on processes that once worked but can no longer keep pace with today’s expectations. For decades, companies focused primarily on innovating products for their customers. Now they must also innovate how work happens internally.

I approach that process by building a minimum viable solution. Instead of attempting to transform the entire business at once, I use AI to create the smallest useful version of a better process.

We test it on real work, observe where it fails, improve it, and only then decide whether it deserves a permanent place in the organization.

The objective is not to hand everything to AI. It is to let technology handle the repeatable tasks so people can remain responsible for the judgment, relationships, and creative decisions that require them.

Can you summarize your approach in a simple model?

CJ: What simple model do you use to explain this?

Jim: My process has four steps:

  1. Notice where the week actually goes.
  2. Decide what the week should be for.
  3. Design the structure around those priorities.
  4. Protect that structure—especially family time and thinking time.

Your model and mine may be describing the same process from different directions.

CJ’s perspective

My process is also built around four steps:

  1. Relieve: Identify the pressure point and describe what meaningful relief would look like.
  2. Define: Choose the smallest useful solution you can test.
  3. Build: Apply it to real work and record the adjustments it needs.
  4. Adopt: Keep it, improve it, or stop using it.

Jim begins by determining what the person wants their life and week to protect. I begin by identifying the operational pressure that prevents them from protecting it.

The approaches meet in the middle: design the destination first, then build only the systems and tools that help you reach it.

What can someone do in the next 20 minutes?

CJ: What is one thing a reader could do in the next 20 minutes that would change something this week?

Jim: Open next week’s calendar.

Before anything else, block one stretch of time with your family that you will not move. Then block one stretch of time for thinking.

Look at everything else on the calendar and ask yourself which commitments you would choose deliberately.

It takes about 20 minutes, and it can change the week.

CJ’s perspective

Once you make room for your priorities, use some of that thinking time to examine your work.

Choose one task you perform repeatedly. Describe what you do, why you do it, and what a successful result looks like. Then ask an AI tool to help you identify which parts could be simplified, prepared, or automated.

Do not begin by asking AI to take over the entire task. Begin with the smallest repeatable portion that consumes time without requiring your judgment.

There is little value in saving time unless you know what deserves that time more.

Who is this approach for—and what should they do next?

CJ: Who is this for, who is it not for, and what should someone do next?

Jim: It’s for founders and owners at a turning point: after a sale, investment, major deal, or extended period of overload. It is especially relevant to parents running a company.

It isn’t for someone seeking a quick hack or someone unwilling to change how they work. It’s for people whose lives and businesses are doing well, but who know “doing well” is not the same as living and leading well.

I work one-to-one and with small groups, so I cannot personally help everyone. My three-minute System Score diagnostic can show you where to begin. It identifies where your current setup is aligned and where the pressure is concentrated.

Take Jim Brenner’s System Score

CJ’s perspective

Jim’s system is a strong foundation for building an AI ecosystem. It helps ensure that AI is integrated into a deliberately designed business—instead of forcing the business to reshape its workflow around the technology.

AI is lowering the barriers to developing ideas, improving operations, and building valuable businesses. But those capabilities mean little if we surrender our family time, thinking time, judgment, or relationships to obtain them.

First, protect the people who matter. Second, protect the time required to think, create, and lead. Then build an AI-supported ecosystem that serves those priorities.

After you take Jim’s free assessment, I invite you to explore Irreplaceably Human, my new AI community for founders and other thoughtful professionals who want technology to support—not replace—their judgment, creativity, and relationships.

Design the destination before choosing the tools

Jim and I approach the problem from different angles, but we agree on the order.

Decide what your work and life are for. Protect the time and relationships that should not be negotiable. Identify the recurring pressure that threatens them. Then use processes, delegation, and AI to deliberately remove that pressure.

A new tool cannot design your week for you. But once you have designed the week, the right tools can help you protect it.

Take the next step with Jim’s free assessment:

Take Jim Brenner’s System Score

The Power of + – &: A Simple Weekly Practice to Improve Your Life or Business

If you’re like me, your planner isn’t just a to-do list—it’s a journal of what really happened. Over time, I developed a shorthand system to help track progress and determine my next steps. It’s simple. I use three symbols:

+ What’s working
– What’s not
& What’s worth expanding or adjusting

This + – & system is my go-to for reflection. It’s like a weekly feedback loop—quick, practical, and surprisingly powerful.

Here’s how it works.

+ Plus: What’s Working

The plus sign helps capture the wins. These are the moments, strategies, habits, or tools that made a difference in your week. It’s about more than just feeling good—identifying what works lets you repeat it and even scale it.

Example:
A few weeks ago, I blocked 90 minutes of deep work in my planner every morning. After the time passed, I marked the block with a “+” in my planner to highlight the positive results: fewer distractions and more progress. It became the high point of my week, and I’ve kept it going ever since. That little plus led to a significant increase in productivity.

During your end-of-week reflection time, when you see a “+” in your week, ask:

How can I do more of this?

Could it become a regular part of my routine?

– Minus: What’s Not Working

The minus sign is an early warning system. It flags what’s draining your time, energy, or results. It might be something you’re doing—or something you’re avoiding.

Example:
I noticed that I was putting off sending follow-up emails to high-risk clients, even though they were scheduled in my calendar. After the time passed, I wrote a “-” in my planner. During my end-of-week reflection time, I was able to review what had transpired by asking: Why was I avoiding it?

Thinking through the issue, I realized that I needed to reduce the friction the event causes in my workflow. I needed a well-worded template to start the process. That tiny barrier was enough to delay the task and potentially lose opportunities from certain types of clients.

The minus column is about honesty, not judgment. When you spot a minus, ask:

Is this something I can fix?

Is it even worth fixing

& Ampersand: What to Expand, Adjust, or Let Go

The “&” is where this system really shines. Inspired by the improvisational phrase “Yes, and…,” it’s where reflection turns into action. The “&” symbol lets you build on a plus or rethink a minus. It’s the opportunity to tweak or drop the effort. It’s like a strategic filter—what’s worth keeping and expanding, and what’s not worth your time?

Example:
I launched a new offer that generated a few sales, but it didn’t perform as well as I had hoped. I wrote an “&” in my planner after all was said and done. This wasn’t a failure, but not a home run either. Instead, I explored its value and what might require tweaks for improvement. The message was reworked and tested on a new audience. The revised version outperformed my expectations.

Think of the “&” as your weekly growth engine. It answers:

What’s the next version of this?

Is this below the value threshold and worth dropping altogether?

It’s a bit like an XY graph. Imagine effort on one axis and value on the other. Anything above the intersection of the lines is worth pursuing. Anything below needs to be cut from your operations or offerings.

Why + – & Works

This tiny framework turns your week into a lab, where you’re not just working, but learning. It’s easy to remember, simple to apply, and endlessly adaptable. You can use it in your planner, digital journal, or team meeting agenda.

I spend only 10–15 minutes reviewing my sheet each week. That small habit has led to tremendous clarity on the value of continuing or dropping any offer or operation.

Try It This Week

Here’s your invitation. Set a 15-minute appointment with yourself. Review your calendar or journal. Then ask:

  • What’s a + this week?
  • What deserves a –?
  • What will I & into next week?

Success isn’t just about hustle—it’s about reflection and wise decisions. The + – & system helps you stay focused and move forward with clarity and purpose.

Here is the sheet I use. Feel free to click on the download button below.

Let me know how you like it.

© 2025 by CJ Powers

From Obsolete to Thriving: The Surprising Power of Staying Relevant

Over the past two months, I’ve heard various reasons businesses, churches, and families are shrinking. Yet studies reveal that relevant entities are thriving. So, which is true? Can both be true?

One Guy pointed out that the new robots will replace millions of jobs. This statement is true, but leaving that information hanging without giving perspective is hurtful. People don’t need his concocted drama designed for him to be seen.

I remember when I was first introduced to the study by MIT economist David Autor conducted. He found that about 60% of the jobs in 2018 did not exist in 1940. This news wasn’t to startle people based on coming trends but to reveal the importance of adaptability in professional and personal contexts.

To exist in the future, we must be relevant today.

I’m not speaking about relevance for survival but for purpose—the place where we thrive. When we genuinely want to help others, we adjust what we say and do based on our audience. The only ones we can help are those who can relate to us. Since we’re responsible for our shared message, we must ensure it is relatable.

I watched how three different types of people addressed the same opportunity to thrive or become obsolete.

The Scientist

Last spring, I met a brilliant scientist with multiple degrees who struggled to lead their team effectively. The issue wasn’t incompetence among the team but a lack of clarity about the relevance of their tasks. Once the scientist bridged the gap by sharing the ‘why,’ team performance improved exponentially.

If the team manager assumes the problem is their people’s lack of training, the gap will never be bridged. The only way to ensure understanding is for the manager to take responsibility. This is done by coming alongside their people and learning about their knowledge, then transitioning to clarify incorrect information or processes.

The Pastor

I recently attended a small church where the vast majority of the people had the exact same basic need for connection. After talking with several people, I learned that the church would be three times bigger if it met these simple needs, which would probably stop members from seeking solutions elsewhere.

When I raised the issue with the pastor, he wasn’t interested in facilitating these needs. Instead, he proudly stated how great several church members were for staying during the spiritual falling away mentioned in the Bible.

I might have believed his scenario had I not read the church trends from Lifeway Research’s 2024 report. Christianity is rapidly growing worldwide and on pace to reach 3 billion members by 2050. This incredible growth is not due to churches doing things the way they always have but demonstrating their relevance weekly. [2]

This pastor’s resistance to change reflects a broader challenge: staying relevant to meet the needs of modern communities.

The Relatives

During a family discussion about AI, concerns arose about job security. Like the internet years ago, mastering AI tools has become essential for staying relevant in the workplace.

I shared how Boston Consulting Group with Harvard conducted a study to evaluate what impact AI might have on its consulting team. The study showed that those who used AI had a 40% increase in the quality of their work, and they completed tasks 25.1% faster. This equated to the AI users getting 12.2 times more tasks completed than employees who didn’t use AI. [1]

Humans Determine Relevancy

AI will soon use robotic forms to manage our redundant workflows. Anything repetitive will likely be handled by machines soon. For instance, I recently helped a medical device company reduce a 14-hour reporting process to just 6 minutes using AI. While AI couldn’t create the program, it served as an invaluable assistant, checking syntax and suggesting non-conflicting workflows.

This project saved the company millions and demonstrated how mastering AI tools can drive extraordinary results, which is always relevant.

Choose to be Relevant

Staying relevant isn’t just a choice—it’s an opportunity to thrive. Embrace new tools, adapt your strategies, and discover the power of working smarter. The future belongs to those willing to learn and grow.

The next time you face a challenge, ask yourself: “How can AI help me do my job 25X faster with 40X improvements in quality?”

Copyright © 2025 by CJ Powers


Footnotes:

  1. Harvard Business School and Boston Consulting Group, “Navigating the Jagged Technological Frontier: Field Experimental Evidence of the Effects of AI on Knowledge Worker Productivity and Quality,” 2024.
  2. Lifeway Research, “8 Encouraging Trends in Global Christianity for 2024,” 2024.